Between running a business and planning parties for clients all over the world, the wedding pros who serve the rich and famous certainly lead interesting lives (follow any of them on Instagram and you’ll see what we’re talking about). But truthfully, the pros who plan the most extravagant parties really aren’t all that different from everyone else. That is especially true when you ask them to take an interview in bed.

Our guest here is Bryan Rafanelli. He’s the founder and chief creative officer of Rafanelli Events. Bryan and his team are known for their high-profile clients and exclusive events (Chelsea Clinton, Allison Williams and President Obama to name a few). He’s also the author of a new book called A Great Party: Designing the Perfect Celebration.